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'Up Front' Celebrates Episode 75 With Review of Episodes That Helped Us Get Through The Summer

Sep 11, 2020 03:54PM ● By Jason Huddle

This week, we take a look back at two episodes that helped us get through this insane season. We received some practical advice on how to remain professional and productive from businessman, Tom Cooper, as well as a special word of encouragement from Pastor Dale Jenkins, of New Hope Worship Center. Plus, we'll also let you in on some previously unreleased conversation that took place during a commercial break of our Race Relations episode. In a time where we don't know how much farther we have to go to get through this pandemic crisis, it reminds us of how far we've come.

Links to the full episodes cited this week:


Jason Huddle  00:00

It has certainly been one crazy summer. And I don't really mean that as a good thing. But at least we've been able to find some laughs along the way.


Tom Cooper  00:08

There was another call that I thought it was recorded, where this guy must not have realized that the camera was on at all. And he was literally naked, walking in front of the camera naked. I don't think I mean, I think he was just clueless about it. And I heard the organizers say, please, let's make sure everyone's wearing clothing, and then people pleding (inaudiable) youy cameras on (inaudiable)!


Jason Huddle  00:30

Put some clothes on people. It's just common courtesy. But we've also needed some help when it came to coping with the shutdown.


Dale Jenkins  00:37

And everything that God created, he said was good and there was only one thing that he said, was not good. And he said it is not good for human being to be alone. In other words, he created us and designed us for relationship.


Jason Huddle  00:51

This week, we take a look back at two episodes that gave us practical help, and also touched our hearts will listen to some previously unreleased recording of what happened during one of the commercial breaks in our race relations episode. That's coming up right now on Up Front with Cabarrus Magazine a presentation of CabCo Media Group and sponsored by Atlantic Bay Mortgage Group, Cabarrus Eye Center, Cabarrus Health Alliance, Concord Downtown Development Corporation, Level Up Realty, New Hope Worship Center and Walk Cabarrus. I'm your host Jason Huddle. Hello my friends welcome once again to Episode 75 can you believe we have made it to Episode 75 Up Front with Cabarrus Magazine once again. As always, I thank you the listeners and of course our sponsors. Because without them there would be no Up Front with Cabarrus Magazine. It certainly has been a weird summer for everyone. I think that goes without saying. And in this month's edition of Cabarrus Magazine we feature three episodes of Up Front that we thought deserved a look back. And because I really believe that these episodes are pertinent to what we're going through right now, as a nation, as a community. I thought I would just highlight some things from two of those episodes. And then what I wanted to do is at the end of this program, I'm going to play you some previously unreleased recording of what happened during one of the commercial breaks during our conversation on race relations episode with Sam Dozer, and Addul El Ali. I really love those guys. And I love that this conversation got recorded because I didn't have a place to put it into the episode. But I still thought at the time, I need to save this so that I can play it at a later time, which is what I'm going to do for you today. So we're gonna get to all that but of course, we have to do shameless plug time. If you've been listening to this person grant for any length of time. You've heard us mention our sponsors and heard our sponsor spots here on the program. Here's the thing, we still have a few spots left for additional sponsors. If you're wanting to create awareness for your company, your organization, your nonprofit, up front with Cabarrus Magazine is a great way to do that. And it's not just the sponsorship of the program, you also get some online advertising on Cabarrus some sponsored content on careers magazine calm and we also put a thank you ad in our magazine. So all these things for one bargain basement price per month, and we call this a community sponsorship. Our community sponsorships are industry exclusive, so if you are in your competitors can't be it's just one way that Cabarrus Magazine provides a way for you to create awareness in the community and also support it as well. If you're interested, give us a call 704-782-2353 and we will be happy to help you out. And that's today's shameless plug time. On the other side of this break, we will first look back at our episode entitled How to work from home effectively with our working from home guru, Tom Cooper. He had some valuable information for us, especially for those of you that are still working from home or going back and forth because of virtual learning for your children. It's some great information you don't want to miss it. If you missed it the first time. I've got it here for you again, stay tuned and we'll be back right after this.


Commercial  04:32



Jason Huddle  05:41

As I mentioned before the break. During this first segment, we are looking back at our conversation with Tom Cooper, now Tom is a man that works from home and he has long before the shutdown started. And so we brought him on to help give some good and practical advice for working from home where the conversation picks up. We've been talking about productivity.


Tom Cooper  06:38

But I think you know, thinking back on our productivity, one of the things that I want to I want to lay out is none of us knows what an appropriate level of production is. Now we know when we're at work when we work a good hard day, but in this season, none of us knows what a good hard day is because we're under the kind of mental and emotional stress that we've not been under before. True and so you got to give yourself some You know, it's not reasonable to expect that you're going to be able to juggle all the balls and act like you're not juggling all the balls. So you know, it's okay to slow down a little bit, and to be able to walk away at the end of your workday and say, you know what I did, okay today. And that doesn't mean that you can, you know, sit and watch Netflix or Disney Plus or, you know, Amazon Prime all evening, and you know, three o'clock, I'm checking out for the day. Now, you might have to do that you might need a mental health break in the afternoon, because you might just be totally stressed out, and that's okay. But you've got to find a way to figure out what your productivity is and be able to do that work. And then the other piece that I think is just critically important, and I heard this from a group that I was working with recently, is human connection is valuable. It is super valuable. You were talking about being an extrovert. You got to be able to get connected with other people. And so I would recommend, you know, some kind of virtual happy hour with folks. Pick up the phone and call people, people have time to talk. I had a call yesterday from somebody I haven't talked to in long. And he just needed he's an extrovert. He just needed to talk. And it was great to catch up with him and talk to him a long time. So it's okay to give yourself a little bit of a mental break. But recognize that part of the stress that you're under is that we are social creatures, and we're made for connection. And so make the time for some connection, because that matters, too.


Jason Huddle  08:21

Those are all great points. And actually, I was gonna ask you about affording yourself moments of respite even during a work day just about taking a break, stretch your legs, I mean, you do it the office, right, you get up you grab some coffee, you go to the watercooler. You do certain things during the day just to give your eyes a break and to move your muscles a little bit, even if it's for five minutes. And so you need to keep that routine at home.


Tom Cooper  08:49

Absolutely. I mean, there are times where I will be head down working on something and I'll get up and I'll walk out the door. I got it, I got to go get clear my head a little bit because your brain function that when gets part of a fully funded organ, just like the rest of your organ and with your bodies moving around, that helps you to. So you know, being able to be intentional about saying, Hey, I haven't stretched in a while, you know, I'm sitting in a chair, that's maybe not the best chair for work, I'm sitting on kind of hunched over a table, and it's not the right height for my keyboard. And so my back is kind of scrunched over, you probably need to be thinking about that taking a break, standing up and stretching some to be able to make that work. So and I think, you know, the other component that I wanted to mention is communication with your boss, have, have great conversations with your boss about what's reasonable, what's expected, what's, what's achievable during the season, you know, because you might feel like you're doing a great job and your boss might be frustrated that you're not producing as much. Or you might be just beating yourself up feeling like you're a low performer and your boss is barely keeping their head above water. And your boss might feel me and I'm intimidated by how much work you're doing during the season. I can't see how you're keeping up with this because I'm dying.


Jason Huddle  09:55

Regardless, remaining relevant is is key. Whether you're talking about in front of your Boss, or just running your business and making sure you're out there in front of people keeping that awareness up for your customers. Either way, it's it's critical, for sure. It was at this point that we cut to a break. And when we came back from the break, we started getting into some more practical advice about what you need to pay attention to when you're on all these countless, endless zoom meetings. At the end of the segment, we talked about, you know, staying relevant for your boss, you know, making sure that whether you're running your own company or you have someone that you need to report to, you need to make sure that you're doing the best job you can for them. And a lot of people overlook some details when it comes to these virtual meetings that we're all having. But why don't you talk a little bit about that, Tom?


Tom Cooper  10:53

Oh, sure. So, you know, I've been doing virtual meetings for a very long time and I'm excited because we have not been in a good position ever before. I mean, the tools are more accessible, they're more functional, they're more rich, whether you talk about like Cisco, WebEx or Microsoft Teams, or a Blue Gene or a Zoom, you know, using Slack, all these tools are terrific for being able to have that type of connectivity and remote connection. And so the amount of tech I love tech, but the upside is huge. And the availability accessibility and it's been interesting watching my my mother in law with her peers, you know, in and she's above retirement age, you know, helping them get set up so they can get on zoom calls together, you know, right.


Jason Huddle  11:42

And it lends itself to the question. I was talking about this the other day with my wife, you know, what if this shutdown had happened in the 80s, 90s, or even early 2000s, pre Facebook, you know, we would have been out of luck, right? It would have been incredibly hard to do business from home.


Tom Cooper  12:00

Absolutely, we are I mean, you know, making the most of the situation we're in. I mean, I believe this is a watershed is that I think this is going to be showing a lot of businesses that have been unwilling to think about doing remote work that they're going to have to transform because you're gonna find some workers are going to love being able to have the flexibility of working from home, some won't. And you will definitely need to have workspace for some percentage of your workers. But, you know, this is going to drive digital transformation where paper based processes become electronic processes. I really believe that I don't think we're going to get back to so called normal that'll be permanent. I think people are gonna say, you know what, there were certain parts of it that were super stressful and painful, but man was a great shaving off 80 minutes a day of being in the car. You know, I really, really loved being able to manage my schedule a little bit more on my own. And look, I was able to keep the work going boss.


Jason Huddle  12:53

And I save money because I just had to walk downstairs to go to lunch instead of going out to eat and I got this spend it with my daughter. And, you know, there's all kinds of perks, right?


Tom Cooper  13:03

Absolutely. So let's get on the tech front. And the first thing that I would say is practice, practice, you need to know how these apps work. And the good news is that you can get on free accounts, you can set up a test meeting, I'm telling you right now, get one of your co workers and say, Hey, I need to practice this stuff a little bit. Can we get on a WebEx together? Can we get on a Zoom meeting together? Can I just want to play with some of these features? Because this is all new to me. And I don't want to look like an idiot, would you? Would you be willing to help me? And your coworker is having the same problem, right? They're having the exact same problem. And so make the time to practice. Figure out how do I set up a meeting invite? How do I invite people? If I need to mute everybody on the call? Where's the dang mute button? How do I do that? If I want to mute myself and unmute myself, how do I do that? You know, those kinds of things matter and in making the time to think about that is really important. Because it helps you to look more professional during the meeting. If you're a little more skilled at it, you don't have to be an expert. But you do need to figure out the basics. How do I get into the meeting? How do I get out of the meeting? How do I mute myself? How do I mute other people? If I'm the host? How do I send the meeting, invite, practice that stuff, because when you need it, you don't want to be stressed out going on to schedule a meeting. And I've never even looked at how this tool works. So you know, that's my first tip is, you know, make some time to practice and give yourself a break. Nobody's figured all this stuff out, man. You know, we need to, we need to dig in a little bit. The second thing I would say is, make sure you're running the latest update of the app zoom in particular has had a track record of not being the most secure app because they tried to make it the easiest to use. And right now they're really laser focused on doing some security fixes. So you want to make sure that you are applying the latest fix. There was a new patch for zoom that came out yesterday. You know, slash download, you know, go get that guy and get the latest one installed, because that's going to help you. so that's, you know, just kind of the basics of the meeting stuff. And can I talk for just a second about about how to look good?


Jason Huddle  15:05

Yeah, absolutely, please.


Tom Cooper  15:06

So the first thing, we're going to realize that the stuff that was put into your laptop is probably the cheapest possible components they could put in there, whether it's a camera or whether it's a microphone. Also, your microphone placement matters. If you're trying to take notes by typing during your meeting on your laptop, every keystroke is going to be clapping clackety clackety clack right on top of the microphone. And so it's going to make you sound terrible. Because, you know, they can't hear you for the sound of the it'd be like 1940s typing pool where you got people on typewriters, you know, banging away. That's what you sound like. So, you know, I would strongly recommend that you look at how do I get a better microphone and it might be that you use your earbuds, that's a huge improvement is just throwing some ear buds on your computer. There's a built in mic that will help you.


Jason Huddle  15:53

I find that using headphones helps me hear everybody better to especially a situation when you have multiple people, and they're all talking I don't know for me It helps me kind of decipher who's saying what.


Tom Cooper  16:05

Yeah, and I'm in a place where I've got my own space. And so I can close the door. I have the normal sounds in my office are kind of contained in my office, but you might have a spouse who's working in the same space with you might need to have headphones on to keep from distracting and so I would recommend that you pick up there's a there's a Logitech headset you can get with the USB connected to your laptop that's got the noise cancellation in the microphone 40 bucks I mean those kinds of things I think are really really valuable on the on the low end, or put a microphone on your desk and USB microphone on your desk. There's some great options, you know, from the $30 price range all up to the you know, multiple hundred dollar price range to be able to do something like that but your audio is the most important thing you can improve to make you sound better look better on the video meaning since the first step that you want to take that that one is absolutely the first place to go. The next one is around your video. Only Instagram models can tell you that angles matter. And so if your laptop is on your desk or worse on your lap, that cameras pointed up your nose. Nobody wants to look up your nose. Literally, if you've got nothing else, get a couple of those Amazon boxes that are piling up in your house because you've been ordering a bunch of stuff on Amazon and put them on your desktop and put your laptop up on top of the boxes that have that camera right at eye level. That will make a huge difference. Because that will get you in a place where you can be seen more like you look at a person, right? I don't walk around at your waist level looking up at your head or sitting around the conference table. We're looking at it each other and that's what you want to you want to try and you know make it work. Also when you're talking on a meeting like that. Look at the camera. Don't look at the screen. Look at the camera because when I'm when I'm talking to you, Jason, I'm looking at your eyes. If I'm looking at The screen I'm kind of looking down at feels weird. Now I will tell you It feels weird to look at the camera instead of looking at the screen. But it makes a big difference in the way people perceive you. So, you know, that's something you can do that makes a difference.


Jason Huddle  18:10

I have to work on that constantly. I look at the screen so much and I try not to but it's a hard habit to break.


Tom Cooper  18:17

It is tough, it is tough. And I think you know, then you might consider upgrading your webcam. You know, getting a webcam, you could put on a tripod on your desk and connect that via USB to your laptop, you might find that that huge improvement. One of the nice things about that is that you move your body a bunch and your camera moves every time you do that. If your laptop's on your lap, or if you're moving your laptop on the desk, if you've got your webcam up on a tripod, it fixes it in position and then you just look less fidgety. It's less distracting for folks.


Jason Huddle  18:50

Can I also add to make sure you're aware of exterior noise around you like if there's people talking or even if you're unwrapping A piece of candy or things like that, just mute yourself for a second and do that because it's so distracting when, like the speaker is talking and they're giving some good points and, and all sudden you hear because somebody peppermint, it's just mute yourself for a second.


Tom Cooper  19:17

That's really good. In fact, what you can do is you can just set yourself on mute and this is specific, but if you're on zoom, and you mute yourself, you can get automatically as configured. So if you press the spacebar, it will temporarily unmute you. So one of the things that I'll often do is put myself on mute. And then when I want to talk, I just reach up and hit the spacebar. And then I can it takes me off mute, (inaudiable)


Jason Huddle  19:43

Real quick because we're running out of time, talk about lighting, and also give us a few horror stories that you've seen.


Tom Cooper  19:54

So, the most important thing you can do is have your faith be eliminated. So that means don't put camera facing the window with you between the camera and the window because then you look like you're in the witness protection program. Nobody you know that that doesn't work. So turn your turn around, have the window be in front of you lighting your face so we can see your face. You can spend some money on lighting. I've got some ideas about that. But realistically, you've got to have your don't have your face in the dark. People want to see your face, we need to see that. And there's a bunch more than you could you could do on that front. But even if you could just look at yourself in the camera and see to I look like I'm in the witness protection program. Is there a bright light behind me? Let me that's probably the biggest mistake that I see made. And then I think for sure I've seen a couple of things because to your point, Jason, everybody's using this stuff. Now. It's all kind of exploded into the marketplace. I saw one video conference that was unfortunately tragically recorded, where one of the participants forgot she was on video and went into her bathroom at home and began to use the facilities. Before she realized that she was still on campus. I feel bad for her. I really do. Because that video went all over the place. I can't imagine. I mean, it's just awful. And then there was another call that I saw that was recorded, where this guy must not have realized that the camera was on at all. And he was literally naked, walking in front of the camera naked. I don't think I mean, I think he was just clueless about it. And I heard the organizer say, please, let's make sure everyone's wearing clothing and pleading (inaudiable) your cameras on (inaudiable).


Jason Huddle  21:33

Put some clothes on people. It's just common courtesy.


Jason Huddle  21:44

Thanks again to Tom Cooper for being on the show with us back when we recorded that in April. When we come back after the break, we get a little bit more serious because just a few weeks before that we had talked to pastor Dale Jenkins from New Hope Worship Center and he was offering a word of encouraging meant for us to help get through these times. Now at the time we thought getting through it meant maybe the end of May or June, but obviously it's lasted a lot longer than that. But his words still are relevant and I want you to hear them. So stay tuned. We'll be back with Pastor Dale Jenkins from New Hope Worship Center. Right after these messages.


Commercial  22:20



Jason Huddle  23:28

Welcome back to front with Cabarrus Magazine. Once again sitting here with Pastor Dale Jenkins from New Hope Worship Center. And pastor we talked about it during the storm in the first segment. But I want to talk about faith versus what the government what the media is telling us we need to do. Everybody is familiar now with the term social distancing. We've got to keep six feet away. You and I are even trying to share that distance appropriately. I've even heard some pastors in the community saying you know what, I believe in a God That's going to protect us. So I understand what the government's saying, but we're going to have church or we're going to have our gatherings we're going to do what we need to do. Where do you draw the line on that? Because, you know, yes, God is a guy that protects. If that's true, then why do we need to heed the regulations that the government and the media is telling us we need to do?


Dale Jenkins  24:21

such a great question. You know, some people I think, tried to polarize these two concepts of faith on one hand, and practical wisdom, on the other hand, as if those are mutually exclusive terms, and I don't think that the Bible teaches that at all. I think that those two things are right there together, there is an mixing together of those two concepts. Faith is not a blind belief in something as if there is no evidence at all and you just kind of hopefully in wishfully, try to put your faith in something like a blind leap. That's not at all what faith is. Faith is based off of revealed understanding of who Jesus is what the word of God has proven itself to be, even historically, factually, the promises of God that we have seen manifest in the past. We're not just wishfully thinking so I think to to polarize those two concepts I don't think helps us. I think when we put those things together, then what we can say is this. We want to have faith in God and trust Him, no matter what we are, are walking through, and that our faith truly is that he will bring us through he will protect us, he will lead us He will guide us he will be there to comfort us when we walk through difficulties. But on the other hand, we walk in great wisdom to do what we know is the responsible thing to do. I think a faith filled person is a person who will prayerfully listen to the leading of the Holy Spirit. I think a faith filled person will also lead well those that are under their care. I think a faith filled person We'll listen to the authorities and the experts who really have the understanding that many of us don't have, I think it would be egotistical for me, for example, to make determinations, based off of you know, just because I'm, you know, leading a group of people in my church, I really need to listen to the authorities, to the medical professionals to those that understand the dynamics of this far greater than than what I do. So I take their wisdom, I learned from their wisdom, I appreciate and value them because they are using the gifts that God has given to them as well. And so I think it's very important that we take heed to those things, but yet not walk in fear or feel like I have to be afraid of the outcomes, because I put my faith and trust in God. And so I listen to and appreciate and value the people and the wisdom that is there. But I also put my faith and trust in God and understand that there's a higher dynamic of protection and peace that he brings to me that can't come from any other person. So those two things I think, are kind of one in the same for me.


Jason Huddle  27:02

I think it also comes back to just straight up wisdom. I mean, if I'm allergic to bees, and I think, well God's gonna protect me from that. And then I go and kick over a hornet's nest, you know, I'm not I can't get mad at God when I'm sitting there, having an electric shock, because I got stung. You know, you have to use wisdom. God has, as you pointed out, God has put these people in our community in authority to help direct us in the way that we need to conduct ourselves in order to alleviate the threat. And I think that, like you said, you know, it is scriptural. We take the authority, we heed that authority that's been put over us. And, and it's there for a reason.


Dale Jenkins  27:41

I agree. And I think that the, we have to really understand that those who are in places of government authority, those who are in who are healthcare professionals, those who are our educators, you know, there are all kinds of groupings of people that we can We have to understand that God has gifted them. God has gifted them to be able to give us wisdom, so that we can discern the voice of the Holy Spirit. And oftentimes it is through their voices, that God is speaking to us as well. So we cannot think that you know, somewhere within the walls of the church that we have the only claim on hearing the voice of God or being led by the Holy Spirit. The church has never been bound to the walls of a building. The church is the people. And so people of God, who are, you know, on their jobs in their schools, on their campuses, they are sensing and hearing the voice of the Holy Spirit as well and so to listen to their wisdom, especially those who are experts in these fields, they've worked very diligently. they've studied and there is a gift that God has given to them. And so we appreciate and value those gifts that are in them. And we receive those gifts as we have the Holy Spirit. And so we take those things for what they are. So I think it's also recognizing that God speaks through lots of different means lots of different people. And it's appreciating those things as well. And understanding that they bring great value and even protection to our lives into our families.


Jason Huddle  29:15

You mentioned the church is not limited to a building. I completely agree. And it actually segways nicely into what I wanted to ask you next, which is do you think that part of getting through this, and you alluded to this in the first segment, that people are looking for ways to reach out to people to help people even from a limited basis, even though we really aren't supposed to have a lot of contact with people? Do you think that's what's going to help get us through this is by getting out of our own private little boxes and looking for opportunities to help people however possible, and come together as a community? Is that going to help our psyche? in dealing with all of this?


Dale Jenkins  29:57

It's interesting that you asked that question because I I think it's, it's fundamental to the human condition. We need relationships were born for that when God created human beings, he created all of the earth and all of the things that that we know that exist, universe all the way down to the micro organisms and all of these things. So on that worldview, then we understand that God created all these things that God created with his own hands formed out of the dust, he formed human beings. And everything that God created, he said, was good, and there was only one thing that he said, was not good. And he said, It is not good for human beings. For man, he used that term man, but it's broadly human beings. It is not good for human being to be alone. In other words, He created us and designed us for relationship. And so I think in this particular moment that we're facing, I think that it comes down to that very foundational need that we have. to love and to be loved. And what I love to see in our community right now is that we are seeing that image of God being reflected, we're seeing people that are, are caring for one another, loving one another, giving extra finances toward those that we know that are hurting, we're supporting local businesses, we are doing everything that we can to encourage one another. And although the term social distancing is being used, I think the term that I prefer is just physical distancing. Because it's not that we're not being social, we are being perhaps more social than ever. But we're doing that in a way that is, of course, trying to prevent from from too much closeness. But yet we are doing that nonetheless. And I think that that is what helps people to connect with one another to build those relationships. And from my perspective, as a pastor, as a minister, I have always held to this belief that ministry is built on relationship, you may be able to say it this way that people don't care. How much you know until they know how much you care. And I think it's very important that we establish that relationship that we continue to build on those relationships, and to see people for who they are and to know their story, to know their pain, to walk with them, when they're walking through difficulties, we can do that together. And I think that we have a great opportunity to see the love of God and the love just of human beings to come together and to support one another, through all that we're facing.


Jason Huddle  32:26

Real quick and just the last minute or so that we have, I just would ask you to speak to our listeners message of peace. Just give them some encouragement if if they were all here together, which isn't allowed right now. But if they were all here together, what would you say to them to offer peace in this very tumultuous time?


Dale Jenkins  32:47

I think my words would, of course, from my context and, and understanding that I'm talking to a lot of people and obviously, who have a lot of different beliefs and backgrounds, but from my personal As a pastor, in fact, just my perspective as a believer, I would say, yes, it's true all of us are facing a storm right now, all of us. And that's not often that you can say words like that. But that's true for all of us, we are facing a storm, but that Jesus is greater than the storm. And that he is the one who can bring peace to you in the midst of the storm. So whatever you're facing, whether it's this particular pandemic that we're all feeling the effects of, or your own personal story, in your marriage, or in your family, or in your finances, or whatever that looks like, Jesus can bring peace in the midst of that storm. And our trust and our hope is beyond just that which we can physically and tangibly touch and feel in this earth. Our hope goes much further than that. It's beyond this world. It doesn't mean that it doesn't have impact and effect this way. But what it does mean is that we have a hope that is beyond this world in our present realities. In other words, we can have peace in the midst of the storm. And so I would just speak those words of comfort and to speak this blessing that is found in the Old Testament that the priest used to speak to all of the people, and they would say this often to them. The Lord bless you, and the Lord keep you, the Lord, make his face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you. The Lord, lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace, in the name of the Father, and of His Son, Jesus, and of the Holy Spirit.


Jason Huddle  34:38

Amen. I don't think you could have said it any better. Pastor Dale Jenkins New Hope Worship Center. Thank you so much for coming in and offering some encouragement today.


Dale Jenkins  34:47

It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much.


Jason Huddle  34:54

Once again, thanks to Pastor Dale Jenkins from New Hope Worship Center for being on the show with this one. We recorded that, when we come back, we're gonna close out the show with something very special. As I mentioned at the top of the program, there was about a two minute period of time that was recorded during your commercial break. And part one of our conversation on race relations. I knew at the time I needed to keep that recording handy, because I would want to release it when I found the appropriate time. And now I feel like it is. If you want to go back and listen to the entire episode, I recommend you do that to help give you context. On the other side of this break, I'll let you know what led up to this conversation. But just know this, those two episodes that we did back in June, probably not only the most listened to episodes of our 75 episode history, but also some of the most poignant so I want you to hear this. On the other side of the break. Stay tuned.


Commercial  35:54



Jason Huddle  35:55

Realizing that we are way over on time for the show, I do not want to end the show without playing you this clip that I've been teasing since the beginning of the episode, the conversation on race relations. Two part episode was something that I will remember for the rest of my days. It was some great conversation. And I was able to gain perspective from two men who not only have different backgrounds for myself but from each other. So they had different perspectives on what is going on in this country and why, right before we cut to a commercial break, we were talking about the relationship of the police to the black community, and that's where I cut to break and the conversation picks up. The first voice you're going to hear is a duel le he is the podcast host for The Urban Conservative. The other voice show here is Sam Dozier and he is employed at Great Wolf lodge here in Concord.


Addul El Ali  38:11

Before you go to that next.


Jason Huddle  38:13

This is what started a three hour conversation.


Addul El Ali  38:14

I got to show you something in that field that he did that because we actually did a study here in Kannapolis. I was on the City's Community Development Commission two and a half, three years ago. And I kept noticing with the low voter turnout, it's like how do you really know what people are thinking? They don't vote, it's not like they got a candidate that they all vote, you know, black people don't have any representation in Kannapolis. We just don't. So I went out and I did something called the Kannapolis area community survey. I got 3000 surveys done there every black pretty much every black person I could find in Kannapolis right. And you would not you would not believe the survey results that you get back when you talk about the police. It's it's mind blowing for where we are in Kannapolis. Now keep in mind, this is 2017, 2018 data. So this is pre COVID, pre George Floyd, pre Kannapolis. And is Kannapolis.


Sam Dozier  39:06

Because none of the type of struggles.


Addul El Ali  39:09



Sam Dozier  39:10

Those inner city I'm from St. Louis.


Addul El Ali  39:12

Do you talk to people here in Concord? There's really desention between Concord police in the black community. Its a real thing.


Sam Dozier  39:18

I hear what your saying but I'm talking about I'm from one of those cities that have been oppressed for so long. I'm talking about for generations. That's why it exploded in Ferguson, because people was tired of being tired. So it was no more I wanna to hear from you. It was no more what can you do at this point? It was at the point where you know what, bam. Okay, we take it in our own hands. And that's why the military had to come to Ferguson.


Addul El Ali  39:46

And you know, a bugged me out about Ferguson, what kills me about this, like, you have these towns where it's a 70%, 60% black, so pretty much a black town.


Sam Dozier  39:56

But the whole (censored) police departments white, all the (censored) city counsel white (inaudiable)


Addul El Ali  40:00

(inaudiable) my friends that I graduated with, not not one of yall could run? How much does it cost to run? 30 bucks? Come on seriously, that's what we're doing.


Jason Huddle  40:11

You heard me warning, a duel at the beginning of that segment that wait, wait, wait, we're gonna go off on a tangent because you don't understand. Talking to those guys. What you heard in the episodes was a fraction of the total conversations that we had. Probably there was another five hours of recorded conversation and another three or four hours of unrecorded conversation that I had with these gentlemen. So there was a lot to process. And I was trying to keep him on track because I knew that could happen again. Well, I hope you've enjoyed this look back at some of these episodes. If you want to go back and listen to the full episodes, please feel free to do that. You can go to Cabarrus Magazine calm and click on the Up Front with Cabarrus Magazine podcast page. From there, you can listen to every episode that we've ever recorded. And I encourage you to do that. But just to make it a little bit easier on you, we'll put the links to these particular shows in our show notes. And that is all the time I have for the day. You have been listening to Up Front with Cabarrus Magazine presentation of CabCo Media Group and sponsored by Atlantic Bay Mortgage Group, Cabarrus Eye Center, Cabarrus Health Alliance, Concord Downtown Development Corporation, Level Up Realty New Hope Worship Center and Walk Cabarrus. Until next week, how about counting those blessings.

Episode 87: One Crazy summer

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